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tphinn


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I am thinking KC over Houston this week? They are due to come out with a win. Any thoughts?

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Walter


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The Chiefs will probably beat the Texans, but Priest Holmes is out.


If I was still in a survivor pool, I'd have to decide between one of the following:


Denver (San Diego is 1-9 at Denver in the last 10 years).


Indianapolis (Brett Favre is 8-29 in dome games).


St. Louis (No Deuce McAllister).


Dallas (Cowboys have won 12 of the last 13 meetings).



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Joey


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Walt, get fricko's ass in here, and you two pick. Were all still in it here, now we have the rule that noone can pick the same as another person so, me, you, fricko, tphinn, and everyone else can pick. Lets do this thing.


My pick is Denver over San Diego.



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Walter


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I'm going with the Rams. No Deuce McAllister.


I told him about it, so he should be getting in here relatively soon.



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Joey


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Thats great Im looking forward to it.

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Walter


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Just talked to fricko. He's taking the Seattle Seahawks over the 49ers.

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Joey


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Okay, Walt and Tphinn are out. Now it is down to me and Fricko. My week 4 Eliminator is................................


Green Bay over NY Giants.



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Walter


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I'd like to thank Mike Martz and his squibb kick for the loss. What a baffoon.

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Joey


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Yeah, who came up with the stupid squib kick. I think they have a better shot of running it all the way back when you squib. Look at the Dallas @ New York game last year. They did a squib kick, and it went out of bounds Dallas got it at the 40, Quincy made a great 25 yard pass, we went into Overtime after a 52 yard kick, and Dallas won. The squib kick is very dumb. What if you kick a touchback? You secure the win. There is only like 1 kick return for a touchdown every 3 weeks so why let them have the ball really far up?

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Walter


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A lot of the coaches in this league are frauds who crack under pressure. Mike Martz is clearly one of them. The squib kick has never worked. In fact, I remember a game in 2002 when the Browns were playing the Jaguars. Jacksonville had l lead with about 10 seconds to go. They squibbed it to the 45. Tim Couch was able to throw a hail mary into the endzone and win the game.

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Joey


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Its rediculous. If I was an owner I would tell my coach never to squib again if he did a squib and we still won. If he did a squib and we lost the game, if we were one game above 500 or less he would be fired immediately.

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Walter


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Probably a good idea. Some coaches just don't get it.

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Joey


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Walt, what is Fricko's Eliminator this week Mine is Green Bay over G-Men. Remind him he cant pick the same one as me.



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Walter


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I'll reply to all the other threads later today; sorry, I've been busy.


Fricko is taking the Ravens over the Chiefs



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Joey


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Well, unless Kansas City can pull off an upset, Fricko wins the Knockout poll. Who would imagine how bad the Packers are this year and how good the Giants are this year. The Giants and Cowbokys have the Eagles on their toes for the NFC East Crown while the Redskins arent even being competitive.



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Walter


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The Packers are 0-2 at Lambeau Field. They lost to the Giants and Bears. What the heck is going on here?

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Joey


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You tell me. Are they the same Packers that won in Carolina? It is hard to believe right now.


My upset special came through. I picked Atlanta to beat Carolina because of how ineffective Carolina is against Michael Vick and I was right. So I am really proud for that pick.



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Chiefs lose, so I guess no one wins.


Yeah, I thought Vick would beat the Panthers; he's 4-0 against them.


How about the Cardinals? I had them winning by 3 - they go out and beat the Saints by 24. Wow.



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Yeah I bet Red McCoughms wishes he would have kept Denny instead of Mike Tice, huh? Yeah I picked Arizona too but I thought Atlanta going into Carolina and winning would be a bigger shock that I picked them because everyone was picking Carolina. The Cards may be this year's Cincinnati having the worst record in football one year. Get a new coach. Sneak up on people. But I dont think Arizona will make the same mistakes in 2005 that Cincinnati made in 04. Denny will definetly have them in the playoffs in 05 and they could even be in it in '04. Im really proud of Emmitt. People all the time tell him to retire and he just stuck their nose in it. Way to go, Emmitt! This is the first time Theismann and I agree and I was really suprised to hear the buffoon be so nice to a Cowboy.


"Chiefs lose, so I guess no one wins"


What does this mean?



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Joey


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Im a retard, nevermind I just realized that Fricko picked Baltimore. No since that happened we just keep going until one of our teams lose and the other wins.

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I always hated how people told Emmitt Smith to retire. Only he can tell himself to do that.


I agree that the Cards will be in the playoffs in '05. Dennis Green is one of the best coaches in the NFL.



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People like Sean Salisbury. I totally agree with you I cant stand that idiot. I never learn anything from him.

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What bothers me about him is his arrogance. He thinks he knows everything just because he had a brief stint in the NFL. If he wasn't a know-it-all, I'd actually listen to him, but I do agree with him from time to time.

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He always critisizes John Clayton. Clayton is awesome I always look forward to his "inside the huddle" segments on ESPN because I get an around the NFL in 60 seconds segments ,you get everything that has gone on in the NFL the previous week in one segment. Sean Salisbury is totally wrong almost all of the time. Who does he think he is? I cant stand Ron Jaworski but I learn things from him, I hate Sean Salisbury and I dont learn from him.

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Once in a while, you'll get something from Salisbury, but it's rare. After last Monday night's game, he said "i heard some prognosticators out there saying the Chiefs won't be able to run on the Ravens' defense, but they were dead wrong."


I dont know if he was talking about me or not, because I have no idea what other prognosticators he could be talking about, but he's the one that said the Chiefs were done after their loss to Houston. Guy thinks he's God's gift to football, but he's far from it.


Clayton is the man. He knows everything. I like Jaws too, although the time he spends in the film room is borderline insane.



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He lives and breathes football. I like that. Bill Parcells is like that too. On Cowboys Radio, they said he never does anything. He goes to Valley Ranch at 6AM orders lunch from somewhere or packs it from home, and spends the rest of the day there. Just watching film with Jerry, Roy, Dat, and Vinny. Or at least that is what Brad Sham said. On Christmas, he worked from 6 to 3, and then flew to Massachusetts to see his daughter and grandkids he just is all about football. On Jaws, yeah I remember Merril Hoge saying one time "How much free time to watch film do you have Jaws?". That is why they are good analyists and good coaches and Steve Spurrier is a failure.

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Walter


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You kinda knew that Steve Spurrier would be a failure when he criticized Jim Haslett for working too long.

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I may be wrong but I think Dan Snyder would have been a better coach than Steve Spurrier. What a bust! He is like Ryan Leaf in a coach.



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Walter


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That's a good comparison because both were prolific in college and both sucked it up in the pros. All Spurrier needed to do was curse off reporters.

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After Spurrier's suckiness, I have to wonder if Bob Stoops or Nick Saban are all that good. You have to wonder........

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